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1846
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11/13/2008 07:55:47 PM
TITLE
[life:001846] Re: Water identified by TEGA on Mars lab Phenix
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小林 憲正 <kkensei@***.***>
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飯田様
LIFEのみなさま

火星生命探査で盛り上がっていますね。

下記の会議の案内を転送します。私は海外出張中のために参加でき
ませんが、どなたか、生命分野の代表として、参加していただけな
いでしょうか。惑星科学会に出席されてご存知の方もいらっしゃる
かもしれませんが、WG側は、欧米との差別化といって、あえて生命探
査関連を外す方向で検討しています。全くおかしな論理だと思いま
す。日本でも生命探査を考えているグループがあることを主張して
おきたいと思います。よろしくお願いいたします。

小林憲正
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小林 憲正
横浜国立大学大学院工学研究院機能の創生部門
(工学府機能発現工学専攻/工学部物質工学科)
240-8501 横浜市保土ヶ谷区常盤台79-5

Prof. Kensei KOBAYASHI
Faculty / Graduate School of Engineering
Yokohama National University
Tokiwadai, Hodogaya-ku Yokohama 240-8501
Japan
Phone/Fax: +81-45-339-3938
E-mail: kkensei@***.***
HP: http://www.chem.ynu.ac.jp/lab/kobayashi-lab/index.html/
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Begin forwarded message:
> 差出人: Takehiko Satoh <satoh@***.***>
> 日時: 2008年11月11日 13:11:27:JST
> 宛先: oml@jp
> Cc: satoh@***.***
> 件名: [oml 2455] 12/5-6 第1回 CPS 月惑星
> 探査研究会 (1st circular)
> 返信先: oml@jp
> 返信先: satoh@***.***
>
>
> omlの皆さま:
>
> JAXAの佐藤毅彦(次期火星複合探査WG主査)です。
> この火星探査、そして日本の将来惑星探査への取り組みにつき、率直
> な意見交換をできる機会として、以下の研究会を企画致しました。
> ぜひ多くの皆さまにご参加頂きたく、ご案内申し上げます。
> 参加の
> お申し込み(積極的なプレゼンも)をお待ちしております。
>
> JAXA
> 佐藤 毅彦
>
> (以下、会合のご案内)
> =
> =
> =
> ======================================================================
>
> 第1回 CPS 月惑星探査研究会
> (1st circular)
>
>
> 以下の要領で, 月惑星探査研究会を開催しますので,
> 月惑星探査に興味のある方
> 々の御参集をお願いします. 今年度は「火星探査」をテー
> マにとりあげました.
>
> 参加希望される方は以下のフォームをうめて tansa-
> staff@***.***
> まで申込んでください. なお旅費が限られているため,支
> 給希望の場合でもご希
> 望にそえない場合があります.決定は世話人に御一任いただくよ
> うお願いします.
>
> 〆切は
>
> 11/26(水)
>
> です.
>
> 参加申込書: 以下を適宜書き換え tansa-
> staff@***.*** へ
> ========= ここから
> ================================================
> なまえ: はやし よしゆき
> 名前: 林 祥介
> name: HAYASHI Yoshiyuki
> 身分: 教授
> 所属: 神戸大学 大学院理学研究科 地球
> 惑星科学専攻
> 所属TEL: 078-803-****
> 所属〒: 657-8501
> 所属住所: 神戸市灘区六甲台町1-1
> 所属FAX: 078-803-****
> email: shosuke@***.***
> MEMO: 気象学, 地球流体力学, 惑星大気構造論
> 懇親会: 参加, 不参加 (該当以外は消してくださ
> い)
> 旅費支給を 希望する,希望しない (該当以外は消し
> てください)
> ========= ここまで
> ================================================
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 趣旨
>
> 日本の月惑星探査について JAXA だけでなく大学等も含め
> て,様々な分野の研究
> 者が集い,批判的意見も含めて様々な観点から議論し,今後のわ
> が国の月惑星の
> 戦略を協力して考えるきっかけとなる場にすることを想定してい
> ます.今年度
> は,火星探査を例にとって,談論風発の会にしたいと考えていま
> す.皆様の御参
> 加を歓迎いたします.
>
> 場所: 神戸大学工学部 C 4201 室
>
> プログラム(案)
> 12/05(金)
>  13:15 開会・歓迎の挨拶(渡部重十)
>  13:20 日本の惑星探査、過去・現在・未来への
> RM(中村正人)
>  13:45 次期火星探査WG立ち上げの経緯と現状(佐
> 藤毅彦)
>  14:00  検討状況:気象オービター(今村剛)
>  14:20  検討状況:大気散逸オービター(松岡彩子・寺
> 田直樹)
>  14:40  検討状況:軌道(尾川順子)
>  15:00  休憩
>  15:15 火星オービターのサイエンス(15分×4
> 程度)
>   (司会:鈴木)
>   (プレゼン:募集中・打診中)
>  16:15 世界の火星探査の状況(佐藤毅彦)
>  16:30 自由討論
>  18:00 第一日終了
>  (懇親会)神戸大学六甲台「さくら」
> 12/06(土)
>  09:00  検討状況:ランダー(岡田達明)
>  09:30 火星ランダーのサイエンス(15分×4
> 程度)
>   (司会:佐々木)
>   (プレゼン:募集中・打診中)
>  10:30 休憩
>  10:50 総合討論
>  12:20 第二日終了
>

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小林 憲正
横浜国立大学大学院工学研究院機能の創生部門
(工学府機能発現工学専攻/工学部物質工学科)
240-8501 横浜市保土ヶ谷区常盤台79-5

Prof. Kensei KOBAYASHI
Faculty / Graduate School of Engineering
Yokohama National University
Tokiwadai, Hodogaya-ku Yokohama 240-8501
Japan
Phone/Fax: +81-45-339-3938
E-mail: kkensei@***.***
HP: http://www.chem.ynu.ac.jp/lab/kobayashi-lab/index.html/
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On 2008/11/13, at 19:39, Kazuhiro Iida wrote:

> 荒様 LIFEの皆様
> Phoenixは定点観測型なので,砂塵が電池パネルに固着してしまわ
> ないか
> が心配です.もし,そうなると次の春は難しいかもしれませんね.
> スピリッツとオポチュニティーの場合,自走式(+ロボットアーム)
> だったので振動で多少ふりおとせたりしたかもしれません.
>
> ソーラパネルは,自分で増えないので劣化したら劣化したまま.
> 生物の光アンテナ分子は,どんどん壊れながらも供給されて役割
> をはたす.
> 探査機も,自己修復材料とか使って何度でもトライできる仕様のものが
> できると良いですね.
>
> 飯田
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Takeshi Ara [mailto:takeshi@***.***]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:16 AM
> To: life@***.***
> Subject: [life:001844] Re: Water identified by TEGA on Mars lab Phenix
>
> 飯田様
>
> 荒です。
>
> At 10:24 08/11/04 +0900, you wrote:
>> LIFEの皆様
>> 次なるTEGAの分析結果を待つ間に,火星の季節はめぐり
>> phenixの太陽電池パ
>> ネルは,十分な電力を供給できなくなっています。以前に取れた
>> データはどう
>> なったの?というのが率直な意見ですが,公式頁以外からの情報
>> をお持ちの方い
>> らっしゃいませんか?
>> 飯田一浩
>> p.s. 話は変わりますが,ソーラパネルって温度低いほど効率よ
>> さそう。でも光
>> が不足。藍藻とか光合成生物は少ない光でも利用できそう。でも
>> 温度が低い
>> (phoenix pointは夜中マイナス96度,日中マイナス4
>> 5度)とだめ。どっち
>> が強い??。。。
>
> 両方のいいとこどりの、または相補しあうような発電システムが
> あるとよいので
> しょうね。微生物でも様々な金属(栄養)を還元してエネルギー
> を得たりしてます
> し。
>
> 冬が過ぎて春が来たら、また復帰できたりするのでしょうか?>phenix
> 過去の探査ローバーとかはどういう周期で活動しているのでしょう?
>
> ---------------------------
>     荒   武
> かずさDNA研究所
> takeshi@***.***
> ---------------------------
>
>
>
>
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